I am not turner ..I have done a couple of things but not good at it....a neighbor is very good and bought a harbor freight lathe...I know... :? that was my opinion too, but he really likes it, and I have to admit it is a substantial piece of equipment, he says it is exactly like the jet except for the color? The head will turn out so you can do huge bowls....just a thought....Grizzly site has some that look good to me, but again I don't know much about them. I have been thinking about the little Delta mini for 272.00 with the rebate of the extension...anyone know if they are anygood or worth messing with? thanks in advance