Dave,if you are going to use a leather wheel for stropping,you don't need a cloth wheel.First of all stropping wheels in order of hardness are paper,leather, and hard felt.Anything other ,forget it,the wheel will roll the tools edge and cause you more work, both in carving, and continual sharpening. Soft,medium felt wheels are being passed off as FELT wheels, the wholesale is much less than a hard felt wheel,the grooved wheel is a gimmick. The sander, heck use a belt sander, put some 3 in 1 oil on it and you have a shaper that may take a little longer,but does not burn the tool #110 sandpaper. For any stropping wheel .use a cooling paste,the secret Ozark compound is for hand stropping only.I don't see why it is being passed off for wheels, a 3 pound block is more like it My trick is to shape a tool((heel grinding only) on the belt sander, then use a paper wheel, tool at 45 degree angle and roll the tool to form the cutting edge. Then I wack it(no longer than saying ZIP IT) on the felt wheel,see if the little bead of melted compound says its sharp,try a cross grain in whatever handy,cherry,maple oak, etc(my firewood pile).I use the compound on the sander, paper wheel,felt wheel etc because the one thing that will screw up a tool is heat, fine ceramic wheels have ruined more gouges, than I have, throwing them at groundhogs.I just got done doing 80 tools in a bit over two hours. A lot from England,so they were in interesting stages of needing work from a simple honing to reshaping and grinding,will be honest not all came out as sharp as wanted, but it will be nice in a few days.So gang if I left you with questions. The trick is to use a tool rest,that is a basic requirement for accurate and sharp edges. So,once yas learns da basics there is a chance, abet a slim one, that you might be able to carver as badly as I do, Cordially, Nad larry nadwodney Forgot, the 45 degree angle on the paper wheel,if you use as you would a grinding wheel, that paper wheel will make the bevel surface concave, the sucker is HARD,anything not clear This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. and thanks for taking the time to read my comments